tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post5638661463073543026..comments2023-11-20T06:50:41.151-07:00Comments on Expressions unleashed: My journey to Sri Vaishnavism - Part 2 (End of the beginning)Anandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-38047087848397621462017-11-11T21:18:20.748-07:002017-11-11T21:18:20.748-07:00Thanks for leaving a comment.
I think my interest...Thanks for leaving a comment.<br /><br />I think my interest in polemics has kind of waded over the years mainly because of the fact that it does not lead to any proper conclusion. I go by the thumb rule that whichever appeals to your mind and heart is what you go by. Aspects of both Advaitam and visishtadvaitam appeal to me. My interest in Yogadarshana and Buddhism has gone up in recent years. Also, since I took up samskritam study in a structured manner, learning positive concepts (as opposed to just criticising the other all the time) seems to be much more interesting. Need to push myself if I plan to complete this series.Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-91698585778307810772017-11-11T20:35:06.787-07:002017-11-11T20:35:06.787-07:00Seeing this rather late and the only observation I...Seeing this rather late and the only observation I have to make is that the Narayana you refer to is not, strictly speaking, one to be associated with Vishnu. Although you have yourself made the point partly, suggesting he is one endowed with all the Kalyana gunas, I would say there is really nothing to support that contention. Narayana is considered the Nirguna Brahman by all Advaitins & is used only in this sense by the Shankaracharyas.<br /><br />Your observations are incisive and thought provoking, besides being very interesting and I wish you would soon complete the series. Well done!Sudarshanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11143741084713504656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-57439350687372117542017-04-06T22:06:06.826-07:002017-04-06T22:06:06.826-07:00Got diverted to other things and then mostly lazin...Got diverted to other things and then mostly laziness. I probably have some draft that I need to work on.Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-3769691161903269722017-04-06T12:58:43.196-07:002017-04-06T12:58:43.196-07:00Swami, you did not continue on this. Why?Swami, you did not continue on this. Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-7975614362964659162015-12-15T06:44:37.201-07:002015-12-15T06:44:37.201-07:00Dear Anandji,
Very happy to see your blog.adiyen w...Dear Anandji,<br />Very happy to see your blog.adiyen want to quote few references in adi shankara works where narayana is strongly mentioned.<br />1. In Prapanchsara - under section in 'pranava mantra patalam' Shankaracharya mentions only narayana swarupam as dhyana sloka for om mantram.which obviously tells us narayana is to be meditated for attaining moksham.( He did not advice to meditate on nirguna braman)<br />2. In the next succeeding chapter Interestingly which explains 'Sri Ashtakshari mantram' he mentions the rishi,chandas & devatha. In that he mentions the devatha as ' paramathma devatha' which implies his opinion is Lord Narayana as paramathmKasiraman. j srivaishnava dasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15125494411264954390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-1218321728822024112015-12-15T06:44:01.784-07:002015-12-15T06:44:01.784-07:00Dear Anandji,
Very happy to see your blog.adiyen w...Dear Anandji,<br />Very happy to see your blog.adiyen want to quote few references in adi shankara works where narayana is strongly mentioned.<br />1. In Prapanchsara - under section in 'pranava mantra patalam' Shankaracharya mentions only narayana swarupam as dhyana sloka for om mantram.which obviously tells us narayana is to be meditated for attaining moksham.( He did not advice to meditate on nirguna braman)<br />2. In the next succeeding chapter Interestingly which explains 'Sri Ashtakshari mantram' he mentions the rishi,chandas & devatha. In that he mentions the devatha as ' paramathma devatha' which implies his opinion is Lord Narayana as paramathma. Kasiraman. j srivaishnava dasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15125494411264954390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-12990786873323960022015-08-05T22:33:16.132-07:002015-08-05T22:33:16.132-07:00Pranaam Anand. It can only be Bhagavan's Grace...Pranaam Anand. It can only be Bhagavan's Grace that destined me to visit this page. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968062734497177482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-62678995640716498122015-08-05T06:22:12.993-07:002015-08-05T06:22:12.993-07:00dhanyavAda:
The sharira-shariri bhaava: has been ...dhanyavAda:<br /><br />The sharira-shariri bhaava: has been mistaken for sameness which is given as a fact everywhere. A deeper study shows these nuances.<br /><br />BTW, how did you get to this page? Just curious.Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-36301533884597293612015-08-05T03:55:02.497-07:002015-08-05T03:55:02.497-07:00Pranaam Anand, I wasn't arguing but wondering ...Pranaam Anand, I wasn't arguing but wondering aloud about the confusion that was tormenting me. Now that you have stated that the various names such as Shiva, Vishnu, Shankara etc are only visheshanas of Bhagavan Sriman Narayan and not the proper noun, the cloud that had covered my understanding is cleared. I am now convinced and at peace with myself. Thank you. <br />Sarvam Sri Bhagavan Ramanarpanamastu. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968062734497177482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-79147047603577485432015-08-04T06:15:01.962-07:002015-08-04T06:15:01.962-07:00Namaste,
Thanks for the comment.
There are many ...Namaste,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment.<br /><br />There are many interpretations of the shrutis and chief among them are these positions.<br /><br />1. All devatas are the same and are forms of one brahman.<br />2. There is brahman which has infinite kalyanagunas and other devatas, who are also great beings but not the same as brahman.<br />3. Trimurtis are forms of the same brahman and are descended from someone else like Sadaashiva or Shakti etc.<br /><br />Also the relationships vary with darshanas. Is it maya as described in advaita of AdiShankara or is it sharirashariri-bhaava according to vishistadvaita of Swami Ramanuja ?<br /><br />This topic is quite vast but my conclusion according to my reading is that "Narayana" is a proper noun unlike vishnu or shiva. Hence vishnu=shiva is fine as these words denote different gunas. However Narayana is a proper noun which represent a personality and several shrutis attest to the fact that Narayana is the advitIya-brahma-tattva (eko ha vai nArayana AsIt , na brahmA na IshAna: ) . <br /><br />Again many people may give some other example to counter it.<br />However, the fact that most of the paramparas with vyaakhyanam on prasthaanatrayam including Shankara's vyaakhya in vyaavaharika-dashA clearly state that Narayana is the parabrahma and the rest of the devatas are his amsha (constituting his shariram) is an indication that they agree upon this conclusion.<br /><br />Since sharira's name would refer to the antaryaami ultimately, all names refers to Sriman Narayana. In that sense every word refers to Sriman Narayana. Hence wherever anyone or any purana says Shiva=vishnu=Narayana and there is no bhedam etc, it only means that all other names indicate Sriman Narayana as the antaryami and hence are inseparable from him and hence have that kind of sameness (similar to redness of a rose).<br /><br />This is also amply proved by purushasuktam and Ramayana's "jagat sarvam shariram te" and antaryami brahmanam etc. <br /><br />Still, if you are not convinced, I would like you to pursue your path with dedication because back and forth arguements do not serve much purpose.<br /><br />One good source to learn more about this is :<br />http://narayanastra.blogspot.in/<br /><br />There is no chauvinism etc here , just a sincere effort to understand the shruti and smriti properly without the baggage that has been added later on and leading to absurd claims that "everything is the same".Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-1999183577062925802015-08-04T05:38:37.735-07:002015-08-04T05:38:37.735-07:00You have a very beautiful and subtle mind.
You have a very beautiful and subtle mind. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968062734497177482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-30317369221432762822015-08-04T05:35:45.478-07:002015-08-04T05:35:45.478-07:00Pranaam Anand, I don't know if you know kannad...Pranaam Anand, I don't know if you know kannada, but if you know i would really like you to read the Mahabharatha written by Kumaravyasa. Kumaravyasa is his pen name while the real name is Narayanappa. You can find the details in Wikipedia. One thing not mentioned in the wiki is that Narayanappa was a staunch devotee of Sriman Narayan. He wrote the epic sitting in the Narayan temple in Gadag district of Karnataka. It is said that he took a bath in the<br />temple well and would sit in front of the Garbha Grhia while the curtain was closed and he could hear the voice from inside the Garbha Grhia narrating the Bharata and he would jot down them. <br />In it Narayanappa writes about the incident of Pashupatastra Pradana incident where Arjuna praises Lord Shiva as Hari, Hara and Brahma including Vishnu are Himself ie., Shiva. If Shiva is Vishnu, then Vishnu or Narayan is Shiva. Next, Vishnu means 'all pervading' and Shiva means 'auspicious'. Can the all pervading be not 'auspicious' and the 'auspicious' not be 'all pervading<br />'? How is it possible? So............ Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968062734497177482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-59813971394360241192015-06-21T22:55:33.139-07:002015-06-21T22:55:33.139-07:00Thanks for the compliment. Sensible comment that g...Thanks for the compliment. Sensible comment that gives breaks from trolls and non-sense.<br /><br />Yes. I need to continue and finish the series. I got busy with learning samskritam and shastram in the middle. So, I guess it will help this writing better as it has only strengthened my convictions and intuition.<br /><br />Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-91715366568151968542015-06-21T22:19:00.242-07:002015-06-21T22:19:00.242-07:00Hi Anand, very nice work. Keep going.
These days t...Hi Anand, very nice work. Keep going.<br />These days there is generally a opinion of hinduism that everything is maya, only 'formless' god is real,<br />all deities all equal, etc. When someone counters that such-estabilished opinions with strong facts, they<br />are simply silenced by force. This is especially the case with vaishnavism, which is simply not even regarded <br />as a legitimate sect of sanathana dharma at all and is being lampooned by all kinds of undeserving abuses.<br />At a time of kali yuga , when this mentality is growing , people like you have come as oases in the middle <br />of this dry desert of 'no god', 'i'm god' philosophies.<br />May Sriman Narayana bestow his divine grace upon you. <br />Waiting for the next part of this essay.<br />Regards,<br />Sidharth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016858001397014513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-52630989152222305972014-12-03T23:23:36.896-07:002014-12-03T23:23:36.896-07:00How do you prove that krishna is paripurna in vish...How do you prove that krishna is paripurna in vishistaadvaita?.....<br />because krishna only said that he is paripurna in bhagavath geetha...<br /><br />but ,according to vishistaadvaita...we are brahman,at the same time ,we are not paripurna...similar case applies to krishna...so,how is krishna paripurna in vishistaadvaita?Srivathsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615592458828309283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-10825293572421910352014-03-24T09:25:36.101-07:002014-03-24T09:25:36.101-07:00My Humble Namaskarams,
First I salute my revered g...My Humble Namaskarams,<br />First I salute my revered guru’s feet “Sruthis Smirithis purananaam aalayam karunalayam <br />Namaami baghawad pada sankaram loka sankaram”<br />Redirected to this blog while searching about Advaita Vaishnavam, the fact is self-explanatory that your blog and my search about this topic aligns with my tune of thought. I don’t know how to call is it merely a coincidence or baghawad anugraham that today I have listned to the upanyasam of Sri Krishna Premi on Adi Sankara Bagawad Pada, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqNqVrJLNz4 in this Sri Krishna Premi explains about the period of Adi Sankara and the necessity for bringing the Vedantic philosophy of advaita, and he goes on explaining about the Acharyas bagawad bakthi and his stotras about krishnastakam, initiation of padmapadha and instructing him to do Nrushimha upasana et all. Towards the fag end of the discussion the upasaka explains about the assignment give for the four disciples of the acharya. Sureshwaracharya aka Mandana Mishra (Who was a karma Yogi and believes in Purva Mimamsa) to do and propagate Gnanayoga and inject the concept of bakthi to him. Because a soul can only get realization if he performs the Gnanayoga with bakthi. And one more interesting fact is that a couple of months back while researching on the Gita bashyam I came across a book at archives.org <br />“THE BHAGAVAD-GITA<br />WITH THE COMMENTARY OF<br />SRI SANKARACHARYA<br />TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH<br />BY<br />A. MAHADEVA SASTRI, b. a.,<br />Curator, Government Oriental Library, Mysore”<br /><br />In this the commentary stars like this <br /><br /> <br />“Naraya;/a is beyond tbe Avyakta ;<br />From the Avyakta the Mundane Egg is born ;<br />\Yithin the Mundane Egg, verily, are these worlds<br />And the Earth made up of the seven Dvipas.<br />[ This is a paura«ic verse speaking of the Antaryamin,<br />the Inner Guide and Regulator of all souls. It is quoted<br />here by the commentator in order that he may begin his<br />important work, after the orthodox fashion, with the contemplation<br />of his favorite God (Ish/a-Devata), namely, Naraya<br />«a, and further with a view to shew that the Pura»a<br />(archaic history), the Itihasa (ancient tradition) and the<br />Gitti teach one and the same doctrine. Naraya«a is, in the<br />popular conception, the Creator who was brooding over<br />the waters just before the beginning of Creation. Cf. Manu<br />I. lo. According to a subtler conception, Na.raya«a is the<br />Antaryamin, the Divine Being in whom all embodied souls<br />have their being. He is not a creature of the Avyakta, but<br />far transcends it. It is the Avyakta, the Avyak/ita, Maya,<br />the undifferentiated matter, out of which, when in apparent<br />union with Isvara, is evolved the principle of Hira;/yagarbha,<br />here spoken of as A«(fa or the Mundane Egg, which is composed of the five simple rudimental elements of matter.<br />An intermingling of the five rudimental elements of matter<br />gives rise to the principle of the Viraj, of which are formed<br />the Earth and all- the other lokas or inhabited regions.—<br />{Anandagiri). The seven Dvipas or insular continents are<br />Jambu, Plaksha, Kusa, Krau?;cha, Saka, 5almala and<br />Pushkara. For further particulars regarding these, see<br />"^y/ikon'^s yi:sh;mpura»a Vol. I, p. 109 ff.]<br />>• ' ' till<br />. -<br />' • ' The- twofold Vedic Religion.<br />'<br />J .rrhrt Iloru created 'tlie universe, and wishmg to secure<br />' brdfer' tnerein' 'He flr'st created the Prajapatis" (Lords of<br />creatures) such as Marichi and caused them to adopt the<br />Pravntti-Dharma, the Religion of Works. . He then<br />created others such as Sanaka and Sanandana | and caused<br />them to adopt the Nivntti-Dharma, the Religion of<br />Renunciation, characterised by knowledge and indifference<br />to worldly objects. It is the twofold Vedic Religion of<br />Works and Renunciation that maintains order in the<br />universe. This Religion which directly leads to liberation<br />and Avorldly prosperity has long \ been practised by all<br />castes and religious orders (var»a-asrama)—from the brahnia<br />«as downwards,—who sought welfare.”<br />Loka samastha sukino bavanthu; Sarvo jana sukino bavanthu<br />Narayana Narayana<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-45990089356433144852014-03-24T08:56:58.576-07:002014-03-24T08:56:58.576-07:00Hi Mate,
My Humble Namaskarams.
Salutations to t...Hi Mate,<br /><br />My Humble Namaskarams.<br /><br />Salutations to the revered guru "Sruthis Smirithis Puranaanaam Aalayam Karunalayam Nammai bagawadpada San(m)karam loka San(m)karam"<br /><br /><br /><br />Got redirected to this blog while searching for advaita vaishnavam. Really elated to see a blog of this kind which resembles my tune and matches my frequency with respect to the inclination towards Advaita Vaishnavism. One sentence of yours that caught my mind was about the lineage of yours (Sri Appaya Dikshitar). In this scenario I would like to say that even my aunt (Dad's Sister) got married to the Appaya Dikshita family of Adayapalam in North Arcot District. Now I am coming back to the topic as you said and cited many examples with respect to Brahman (Nirguna and Saguna), with respect to the Advaita and Vshistadavaita School Of thought was clean sheet analysis, and the minute details about the signature of the Advaita (Eka Dhanta) sanyasi's signature as 'Narayana Smirithi' is really appreciable, at this point I would like to mention about "Srimad baghawad Gita" with Shankara's Commentry to it which is available at archives.org, in this to support your views, The Acharya Himself stared the Bashyam by Saluting Sriman Narayana. And the authors comments goes this way....<br /><br /><br />"Naraya;/a is beyond tbe Avyakta ;<br />From the Avyakta the Mundane Egg is born ;<br />\Yithin the Mundane Egg, verily, are these worlds<br />And the Earth made up of the seven Dvipas.<br />[ This is a paura«ic verse speaking of the Antaryamin,<br />the Inner Guide and Regulator of all souls. It is quoted<br />here by the commentator in order that he may begin his<br />important work, after the orthodox fashion, with the contemplation<br />of his favorite God (Ish/a-Devata), namely, Naraya<br />«a, and further with a view to shew that the Pura»a<br />(archaic history), the Itihasa (ancient tradition) and the<br />Gitti teach one and the same doctrine. Naraya«a is, in the<br />popular conception, the Creator who was brooding over<br />the waters just before the beginning of Creation. Cf. Manu<br />I. lo. According to a subtler conception, Na.raya«a is the<br />Antaryamin, the Divine Being in whom all embodied souls<br />have their being. He is not a creature of the Avyakta, but<br />far transcends it. It is the Avyakta, the Avyak/ita, Maya,<br />the undifferentiated matter, out of which, when in apparent<br />union with Isvara, is evolved the principle of Hira;/yagarbha,<br />here spoken of as A«(fa or the Mundane Egg, which is composed of the five simple rudimental elements of matter.<br />An intermingling of the five rudimental elements of matter<br />gives rise to the principle of the Viraj, of which are formed<br />the Earth and all- the other lokas or inhabited regions.—<br />{Anandagiri). The seven Dvipas or insular continents are<br />Jambu, Plaksha, Kusa, Krau?;cha, Saka, 5almala and<br />Pushkara. For further particulars regarding these, see<br />"^y/ikon'^s yi:sh;mpura»a Vol. I, p. 109 ff.]<br />>• ' ' till<br />. -<br />' • ' The- twofold Vedic Religion.<br />'<br />J .rrhrt Iloru created 'tlie universe, and wishmg to secure<br />' brdfer' tnerein' 'He flr'st created the Prajapatis" (Lords of<br />creatures) such as Marichi and caused them to adopt the<br />Pravntti-Dharma, the Religion of Works. . He then<br />created others such as Sanaka and Sanandana | and caused<br />them to adopt the Nivntti-Dharma, the Religion of<br />Renunciation, characterised by knowledge and indifference<br />to worldly objects. It is the twofold Vedic Religion of<br />Works and Renunciation that maintains order in the<br />universe. This Religion which directly leads to liberation<br />and Avorldly prosperity has long \ been practised by all<br />castes and religious orders (var»a-asrama)—from the brahnia<br />«as downwards,—who sought welfare."<br /><br /> If you need to further explanation of this topic pleas do visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqNqVrJLNz4<br /><br />Have a great day ahead.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-10026904627493333832013-06-11T21:59:06.912-07:002013-06-11T21:59:06.912-07:00I have sent you my contact to your email address.
...I have sent you my contact to your email address.<br /><br />The purANa page was actually contributed by another Srivaishnava bandhu, and all credits go to him.<br /><br />Adiyen.<br />Humble Bhagavata Bandhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932475050150832871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-48071017326118140562013-06-11T11:45:38.200-07:002013-06-11T11:45:38.200-07:00Your blog is really very good. I went through the ...Your blog is really very good. I went through the purana classification post. Will comment on that. Thanks for the link. <br /><br />Can you send me your contact ? I would like to get in touch. These days, it is difficult to come across people with similar interests in this field . Mine is v21[DOT]anand[@]gmail[DOT]comAnandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-46585069590074116662013-06-11T05:37:09.316-07:002013-06-11T05:37:09.316-07:00I would like to introduce my blog page on matters ...I would like to introduce my blog page on matters related to this post. Kindly visit my page at http://narayanastra.blogspot.com<br /><br />I hope you will find it interesting. Adiyen begs pardon if you feel I am spamming.Humble Bhagavata Bandhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932475050150832871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-29081114948149959102013-03-12T07:59:26.338-07:002013-03-12T07:59:26.338-07:00I just read your comment again and you want a Engl...I just read your comment again and you want a English translation for this work. I am pretty sure that a translation has not been done yet for this work. These kinds of works are difficult to translate and also no one has such a huge amount of time these days to do it. (As everyone is running after money mostly).Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-3212975701629272392013-03-12T07:57:16.094-07:002013-03-12T07:57:16.094-07:00Sorry for the late reply.
As far as I know, this ...Sorry for the late reply.<br /><br />As far as I know, this publication must be available in Uttamur Swami's thirumAligai in Chennai , T.Nagar. <br />His house is in Nathamuni Street and many rare books are available there. If you or anyone you know get a chance to visit chennai, you can give it a try. I can find more details regarding the addresss etc. of this place.Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-69633517533859014482012-10-13T02:20:27.807-07:002012-10-13T02:20:27.807-07:00Hi Anand,
I am Kanna from Andhra, searching to ge...Hi Anand,<br /> I am Kanna from Andhra, searching to get a copy of "Paramartha bhushanam"(english translation) of Uttamur swami, can you please point me to the publications where this book is available.<br /><br />Adiyen.<br />kannan.mukundam@gmail.com<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17665729140034719721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-19575251724205425212012-09-03T10:18:27.884-07:002012-09-03T10:18:27.884-07:00Hi Sri,
Sorry for the late reply. I forgot about ...Hi Sri,<br /><br />Sorry for the late reply. I forgot about this after I read your comments weeks back.<br /><br />Hope you are doing well.<br /><br />Good to see you here. BTW, how did you land in my blog through my paintings? I have always assumed it is really very difficult to hit my blog as it seems to be the lowest on any list displayed by google?Anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752528883130285256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32813274.post-74668112272674330882012-08-08T10:15:54.116-07:002012-08-08T10:15:54.116-07:00hi anand... this is me srividya 4m chennai.... we ...hi anand... this is me srividya 4m chennai.... we met in alagammai mam painting class... just by ur paintings got u in this blog... how r u?srividyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11964463137866024083noreply@blogger.com